[PROPOSAL] Open Source certification

Christoph Lameter christoph at lameter.com
Sat Apr 3 15:28:39 UTC 1999

Man, I have some bad memories of the same kind of things going on on the
Debian BOD that you headed. Give him some slack. Eric needs some time to
deal with all the communication issues etc. Both ego's are hurt. Now stand
down and let things cool down.

Moreover you are stating your side of the issue here without him having a
chance to respond. This is just making Eric look bad to SPI. Talk with him
and sort these things out.

On 3 Apr 1999 bruce at perens.com wrote:

> I guess the main problem I have is the back-room dealing that seems to be
> going on. Netscape had Eric and I _consult_ on their license, and then
> they had a public comment period before the license was finalized. Apple
> comes out with a license declared as Open Source as a fait a compli, and
> (at least to start with) no path for public comment.
> I'm also concerned about how Eric changed his tune about enforcing the
> Open Source trademark after I'd already worked on it for an entire year.
> He started arbitrarily handing out the right to use it, once even overriding
> the entire Open Source Initiative board (when he gave the right to O'Reilly
> for the Open Source Summit and Open Source Expo). I also do not believe that
> there was actually a vote of the Open Source board before APSL approval, as
> far as I can tell there would not have been time - I think this is another
> occassion where Eric made his own call.

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