[Spi-private] Bruce's Platform

John Goerzen jgoerzen at complete.org
Fri Jul 14 15:42:02 UTC 2006

On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 07:51:40AM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >How many of them? Why did you not offer apologies in advance?
> Actually, I was distressed to find the IRC logs were not online, as I 

Actually, they are.  Linked to from every Board agenda that is posted on
www.spi-inc.org/secretary.   Look in the "minutes" section -- the full
logs are there.

But I'm *sure* you've been reading these all along, right?

> wanted to check that the count was accurate. But I will not dispute it 
> at this time. And the answer might be "I messed up". We have had much 
> larger mess-ups, mostly concerning money.

If you do come to the conclusion that that is the answer, you'll look a
little better to me.

> >If elected, how will you ensure that you attend a higher proportion of 
> >meetings?
> >  
> I have now been nudged on the issue and will keep a closer eye on it.

This is not the first time you've been nudged.  There have been multiple
public and private reminders about the board meeting attendance policy
already.  While they weren't directed solely at you personally, they
certainly applied more to you than anyone else.

I believe there were ones directed at you personally as well, but don't
have the spare time to grep through a bunch of mailing list archives
just now.

> It wouldn't hurt. EFF does not directly speak for software developers. 
> We have our member projects, so we do. We are currently losing the 

I would point out that SPI's member projects are not limited to software
developers.  Consider, for instance, OFTC.

> >With all due respect, SPI has very little influence on Debian right now 
> >and I think most developers are quite happy with that situation.
> It is, however, sort of strange. SPI is their organization and a good 
> many DDs haven't joined. Why they should have to join separately from 
> being accepted as an acitve Debian contributor is beyond me.

One very good reason is that votes across SPI membership would never
even come close to attaining quorum because most of them wouldn't vote.

> I gave you the social contract and it's been the right one for the 
> project. The activism role belongs in SPI, and Debian's role is to be a 

That had nothing to do with SPI.  And there are numerous problems with
it anyway (one is that is specifically requires Debian to distribute
non-free software in perpetuity using the specific FTP protocol)

> It was posed in civil language. John's messae sure wasn't a proper 
> campaign announcement.

That's enough of this.  I resign as secretary of SPI.
(In fact, I, who have never been secretary, and was replying to your
compaign statement, not announcing it.  You are responsible for your own

(For anyone that didn't follow the plot, I have never been secretary of
SPI, but Bruce accused me of holding that office in an earlier message.
The above remark is intended as HUMOR and didn't actually do anything)

-- John (chuckling) Goerzen

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