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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Neil,<br>
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On 2016-08-23 11:00, Neil McGovern wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 09:02:22PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 2016-08-20 12:20, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Are you saying that you think people don't contribute because of the
overhead of submitting changes to the ikiwiki+git system, rather than
because they don't understand it?
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Not exactly. I am saying that people would contribute more if:
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Perhaps a bit of history may or may not be useful, as I was the one who
installed plone.
When I initially joined SPI, the entire site was run using a similar
system that Debian uses - wml.</pre>
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Thank you, I had forgotten that too. The Wayback machine does show
that SPI switched to Plone in August 2006.<br>
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<pre wrap=""> Thus, I decided along similar lines, with a similar lack of
evidence, that a lower barrier to entry would encourage more people to
contribute to the site.
In hindsight, I was wrong. The number of contributors didn't magically
increase because someone could type stuff in to a text box and have that
submitted to review. It didn't increase because there wasn't the number
of people who were willing to create content, and those who were didn't
like dealing with a CMS.</pre>
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Not sure what you mean. Few contributors like dealing with whatever
publishing system is in place. Of course reducing the barriers does
not necessarily mean there will be an increase in the number of
contributors.<br>
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After I left the board, SPI moved to ikiwiki. This has a number of
advantages over both plone and wml, and more importantly, is the choice
of workflow from people who actually contribute.</pre>
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What do you mean by "is the choice of workflow from people who
actually contribute"?<br>
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<pre wrap="">The amount of extra
overhead from running a CMS system (which is considerable) [...]</pre>
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What kind of overhead are you referring to?<br>
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I'd urge the board to concentrate on things that matter to member
projects [...]</pre>
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This is a little vague, but if you have concrete suggestions, thanks
for proposing these in a different topic.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="998">--
Filipus Klutiero
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.philippecloutier.com">http://www.philippecloutier.com</a></pre>
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