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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Hilmar,<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19-04-15 12 h 32, Hilmar Lapp wrote:<br>
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      <div>It seems the current language of the section on amending the
        bylaws in essence require at least (= in the best case, i.e.,
        100% approving votes) a two thirds quorum for any (substantive,
        i..e., beyond listing of current officers) changes to the bylaws
        to pass. Even if that’s not what it states, it’s what the
        language effectively results in; though the fact that it does
        not mention putting into effect a quorum makes one wonder
        whether this was indeed the intended effect of those who
        originally wrote it.</div>
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      <div>A two thirds quorum of the full membership is highly unlikely
        to ever be reached, so there’s the potential here that SPI will
        be forever locked into the current version of the bylaws. (I
        suppose the only way out would be to dissolve and
        re-incorporate?)</div>
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      <div>Perhaps it would be better to divide the proposed changes
        into two steps. The first would be to _only_ alter the section
        on bylaws amendments to establish a more reasonable (i.e.,
        realistically attainable) quorum. This would hopefully
        constitute a small and focused enough change that those unable
        to invest the necessary time to fully understand a much more
        complex set of changes to review it, form an opinion, and vote.
        Once that’s enacted, the more complex set of changes can be
        brought up for a vote, and getting that approved then doesn’t
        force nearly everyone to choose between spending a significant
        amount of time on really understanding the proposed changes, or
        casting an uninformed vote, or by abstaining effectively casting
        a disapproving vote.</div>
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    <p>The possibility you mention is "interesting", and your suggestion
      would be a great solution to that problem. However, considering
      that only 20 approvals were missing out of 216 contributing
      members, I am quite skeptical that this is needed. I setup a quick
      poll on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.philippecloutier.com/SPI+bylaws">http://www.philippecloutier.com/SPI+bylaws</a> to estimate how
      many contributing members regret not having voted.</p>
    <p>It would by the way be great to use "continual consideration" for
      timeless proposals like this one so there is no need to restart a
      vote from 0 if only a few votes are missing.</p>
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      <div> -hilmar</div>
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          <div class="">On Apr 15, 2019, at 6:18 AM, Henrik Ingo <<a
              href="mailto:henrik.ingo@avoinelama.fi" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">henrik.ingo@avoinelama.fi</a>>
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            <div class="">On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 8:48 PM Filipus
              Klutiero <<a href="mailto:chealer@gmail.com" class=""
                moz-do-not-send="true">chealer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br
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              <blockquote type="cite" class="">I wondered if I had been
                negligent, reading the voting communication too fast,
                but after looking at my mailbox (which might be missing
                1 mail), I didn't find any indication that abstention
                effectively opposed the change. Judging from <a
href="http://lists.spi-inc.org/pipermail/spi-general/2019-March/003965.html"
                  class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.spi-inc.org/pipermail/spi-general/2019-March/003965.html</a>
                alone I think many members may have failed to realized
                the impact of abstaining.<br class="">
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              This is true for me as well. I assumed this would pass as
              a routine<br class="">
              decision and since I haven't been so active in SPI
              recently, I didn't<br class="">
              spend the effort to personally familiarize myself with the
              text of the<br class="">
              new bylaws and then vote. I regret to see the effort to
              renew the<br class="">
              bylaws go to waste because of this and it wasn't my
              intention to<br class="">
              effectively vote against approval.<br class="">
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              henrik<br class="">
              -- <br class="">
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              +358-40-5697354        skype: henrik.ingo            irc:
              hingo<br class="">
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          <div style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 11px; orphans: 2;
            widows: 2;" class="">Hilmar Lapp -:- <a
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="998">-- 
Philippe Cloutier
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