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<p>Greetings,<br>
The forwarded mail was eventually cleared:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.spi-inc.org/pipermail/spi-general/2021-April/004147.html">http://lists.spi-inc.org/pipermail/spi-general/2021-April/004147.html</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, the issue persists and remains serious. For
example, I sent a mail titled "Issue #21: White slashes in page
path generally invisible (no contrast)" to spi-general on
2021-07-15, which was queued for the reason "Message body is too
big", and it is still stuck more than a month later.</p>
<p>Until a proper solution is implemented, I recommend to increase
the criteria to trigger a priori moderation and/or add moderation
manpower. I am available to help with the latter, and willing to
do so on a volunteer basis.<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 2021-05-08 à 17:20, Philippe
Cloutier a écrit :<br>
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<p>Some of SPI's mailing lists (at least spi-general and
spi-private) impose a priori moderation in certain
circumstances. A mail sent to "Too many recipients" can trigger
such moderation queues. The forwarded message is an example of a
message which was directed to such a queue. That message's
content shows 4 more messages which presumably suffered the same
fate.<br>
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<div class="moz-forward-container">It appears that no matter how
one subscribed, these mails will not be relayed until they have
been approved. And unfortunately, unless I am missing something,
there is also no way to access mails in queues via the web
interfaces. Unfortunately, this has an important impact on
communication efficiency, as processing delays visibly exceed 1
month in certain cases (the forwarded message is still queued as
I write these lines).</div>
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<div class="moz-forward-container">While a proper solution should
be implemented, increasing the criteria to trigger a priori
moderation and/or adding moderation manpower would mitigate. I
volunteer to help with the latter for spi-general.<br>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Sujet :
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<td>Re: Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable</td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date :
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<td>Fri, 2 Apr 2021 10:39:58 -0400</td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">De : </th>
<td>Philippe Cloutier <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:chealer@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><chealer@gmail.com></a></td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Pour :
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<td>Michael Schultheiss <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:schultmc@spi-inc.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><schultmc@spi-inc.org></a>,
Martin Michlmayr <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:tbm@cyrius.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><tbm@cyrius.com></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:spi-general@lists.spi-inc.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">spi-general@lists.spi-inc.org</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:sysadmin@rt.spi-inc.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">sysadmin@rt.spi-inc.org</a>, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:webmaster@spi-inc.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">webmaster@spi-inc.org</a></td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Copie
à : </th>
<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:spi-private@lists.spi-inc.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">spi-private@lists.spi-inc.org</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:board@spi-inc.org" moz-do-not-send="true">board@spi-inc.org</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:schultmc@debian.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">schultmc@debian.org</a>, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:sfrost@snowman.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">sfrost@snowman.net</a>, <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:sfrost@spi-inc.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">sfrost@spi-inc.org</a></td>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 2021-03-29 à 10:01, Michael
Schultheiss a écrit :<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Martin Michlmayr wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">* Philippe Cloutier <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chealer@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><chealer@gmail.com></a> [2021-03-27 13:11]:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I am sorry to inform you that the spi-general mailing list has visibly been
unreachable, for at least 40 hours. I personally sent a mail to
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I noticed the same problem recently and opened a ticket but so
received no reply.
I'm worried that <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:board@spi-inc.org" moz-do-not-send="true">board@spi-inc.org</a> doesn't work since it's (IIRC) also
a mailing list; copying Stephen and Michael directly.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">This should now be resolved - apologies for the delay in responding due
to issues with the list software.</pre>
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<p>Thank you very much Michael. Thanks also to Martin Michlmayr,
and to Robert Brockway for acknowledging reception of my
report.</p>
<p>Although it is clear that Michael's actions have helped, I am
unfortunately under the impression that this issue is not
fully fixed yet. From the replies which reached me, I can't
explain why the following still don't show on spi-general's
archives:</p>
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<li>Michael Schultheiss's 2021-03-29 9:52 "Re: [SYSADM #4825]
AutoReply: Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable"</li>
<li>Michael Schultheiss's 2021-03-29 9:58 "Re: [SYSADM #4825]
AutoReply: Issue #17: spi-general mailing list unreachable"</li>
<li>Michael Schultheiss's 2021-03-29 10:01 "Re: Issue #17:
spi-general mailing list unreachable", to which this mail
replies</li>
<li>Robert Brockway's 2021-03-31 03:45 "Re: Issue #17:
spi-general mailing list unreachable"<br>
</li>
</ol>
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Philippe Cloutier
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