[PROPOSAL] Open Source certification

Russell Nelson nelson at crynwr.com
Sat Apr 10 13:09:23 UTC 1999

Marcus Brinkmann writes:
 > The "Open Software Initiative" is a CLOSED organzization. That's damn near
 > to hypocrisy.

It's in the nature of what we do.  By your insistance that we open up,
you demonstrate that we should not listen to you because you do not
grok the problem domain.  Can you write a program if you don't
understand the problem?  No.  Can you have control over us if you
don't understand the problem we're solving?  No.

 > You are doing very well talking to suits. Now you have to learn again how to
 > talk to us, the people doing Free Software. Otherwise we'll forget you more
 > then happily, too.

We never forgot.  What do you think I'm doing now?

 > >  > Further, not doing it makes you look like you're not interested in
 > >  > correcting those mistakes.
 > > 
 > > There will be an APSL 1.1.
 > Who cares? Should I be interested in APSL 1.1? How should I know?

License negotiations are not conducted in public.  You should know
this if you expect to be respected.  You do not -- you are not.

 > > The OSD 1.3 has the ones that are.  There are too many others to list
 > > them.
 > *laugh*, sure. Another indication of your closed organization. Why should
 > you publish the fruits of your work? Suits don't do it either.

It's because I fucking don't have time.  If you've got so much copious
spare time, then you do it, lamer!  And we'll publish them on the web
page, with thanks.  You've got no right to demand that I do this, or
that I do that.  Would you demand that a free software author give
more of his or her time to write a feature?  You bet your bippy you
wouldn't -- not and live through it.  Well you're not getting away
with it of me either.

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