Ties in Elections

Branden Robinson / SPI Treasurer branden+spi-treasurer at deadbeast.net
Sat Feb 8 20:26:11 UTC 2003


On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:21:06AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Branden" == Branden Robinson / SPI Treasurer <branden+spi-treasurer at deadbeast.net> writes:
> 
>  > Oh, certainly.  I agree that such an option permits an added degree of
>  > expressiveness, which is a valuable thing.  My point was simply that I'm
>  > not sure if this is a characteristic of the Condorcet Method per
>  > se.
> 
> 	Eh? Why wouldn't the "None of the above" option be yet another
>  option as far as condorcet is concerned? 

Because it generally affects the outcome in a way the other options
don't.  At the very least, the ballot instructions need to make it clear
to the voter what this effect would be.

> 	I see. I suggest you check out debian-vote over the last few
>  months, where this has been debated at length; Debian's current
>  voting methods draft states that a default option ("further
>  discussion" , nominally) exists unless otherwise stated -- and that
>  means most votes shall indeed have a default option.

You appear to have overlooked some words of mine in this thread:

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  Hmm.  I may be misunderstanding Condorcet, having been polluted by
  months of chatter on debian-vote about properties that Condorcet does
  not possess, like "quorum"[1], "supermajority", and "default option".

You also appear to have forgotten my partipation in debian-vote over the
last few months on the very subject upon which you charge I am ignorant:

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(Alternatively, one can simply browse
<URL:http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2002/debian-vote-200211/threads.html>
and search the page for the string "Branden Robinson".)

Therefore, I suggest you refresh your own memory.  I find it a little
disappointing that you would encourage people to draw inferences that
you know to be false.

-- 
G. Branden Robinson, Treasurer
Software in the Public Interest, Inc.
treasurer at spi-inc.org
http://www.spi-inc.org/
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