[Spi-private] Very long wait for funds transfer

Thu Dec 15 23:06:27 UTC 2016

     I think the issue is that the treasurer isn't able to dedicate the time
to do all the admin required (and maybe it's a lot of admin).  It's a
volunteer position and we are all busy so that leads to him/her making a
prioritisation choice and it likely always gets pushed to the bottom.

     I think Josh has hit the nail on the head that it should be a funded
opinion.  It doesn't need to be a full time job necessarily.

     Maybe during the next set of elections, the candidates should make it
clear how much time they can dedicate to the position.  If one candidate
says he/she does have the time and the other doesn't then that should play
heavily into the voters choice.

     Just to make it clear that I have a stake in this, ArduPilot lost a $1k
partnership donation because I couldn't get an answer from the treasurer on
how to do a wire transfer.  I don't believe I ever got an answer to that
question actually.

     I'm a bit new here so sorry if I'm stepping on toes by voicing my
opinion.  I'm sure the people involved are not negligent, probably just
overworked.

-Randy

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[mailto:spi-private-bounces+rmackay9=yahoo.com at lists.spi-inc.org] On Behalf
Of Philip Balister
Sent: December 16, 2016 7:29 AM
To: Matthew Ahrens <matt at mahrens.org>; Hilmar Lapp <hlapp at drycafe.net>
Cc: SPI Treasurer <treasurer at rt.spi-inc.org>; SPI Private List
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Subject: Re: [Spi-private] Very long wait for funds transfer

Everyone wants a solution. Is there anything we can do to help resolve the
issue?

Philip

On 12/15/2016 02:26 PM, Matthew Ahrens wrote:
> +1 for solving this problem.
> 
> --matt
> 
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Hilmar Lapp <hlapp at drycafe.net> wrote:
> 
>> Seconded. I think we're all in the same boat here, and I'll go out on 
>> a limb here and say that we all collectively know that what Joshua 
>> reported is by no means an isolated incident but a pattern that has been
festering.
>> Plus, we are probably all agreed that of all functions SPI carries 
>> out on behalf of its associated projects, disbursing the funds 
>> earmarked for them in a timely and low-overhead manner is the single 
>> most important one. It is the one that _has_ to work, or SPI isn't a 
>> functioning fiscal sponsor in any sense of what that means.
>>
>> I myself have had to follow up on almost every treasurer ticket, 
>> sometimes multiple times. I now keep a copy of every ticket receipt 
>> and create myself a reminder on my todo list 3 weeks into the future, 
>> rather than just considering the reimbursement done when I hit send on
the initial request.
>> I can do that, and my expenses needing reimbursement aren't large 
>> enough to not allow several months delay. But it does make evident a 
>> very poor professional reliability of SPI as a fiscal sponsor that 
>> disburses project-earmarked funds.
>>
>>   -hilmar
>>
>>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd at commandprompt.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/09/2016 04:34 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>>> Board,
>>>>
>>>> On October 6th, I as Liaison of PostgreSQL.Org requested that 5k 
>>>> USD be transferred to PgUS for their Diversity Scholarships.
>>>>
>>>> On October 14th, the bank info for ACH was delivered to the Treasurer.
>>>>
>>>> On November 7th, the Treasurer of PgUS requested a status update on 
>>>> when the transfer would be made.
>>>>
>>>> On December 9th, the Treasurer brought to my attention that this 
>>>> transfer has still not been made
>>>>
>>>> I understand that we are all volunteers but this delay is a bit 
>>>> overkill isn't it?
>>>
>>> It is now the 15th and I as Liaison of PostgreSQL.Org have had zero
>> correspondence in regards to this issue. I request that at a minimum 
>> the board respond, preferably the Treasurer with an ETA of resolution.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> JD
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> JD
>>>
>>>
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